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Mar. 10th, 2008 10:32 pm
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3 days before the last of the ceramics for the Collegium Feast/Class must be painted and turned in for kilning. 12 days before March Crown. 47 days until Spring Collegium. I still have no actual plan for dancing or entertainments at the feast. The stage directions are not done. The class handout is not started.
But the benches are done, or at least out of my hands. A new volunteer has popped up for making knives, and another for hall clean-up. I found the right table for the butler's station, and a person who wants to keep it afterwards. The caving class last Saturday went well, I think. All the carvers have dismembered at least one chicken. Progress is being made.

Date: 2008-03-11 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ppfuf.livejournal.com
Yeah, I have a bad feeling about the conversation with that guy so far. I wonder _why_ he's so convinced nobody would ever serve birds with heads on.

Date: 2008-03-11 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cvirtue.livejournal.com
Note: since you are posting in that thread, some folks will come surf over here to your LJ, and they'll see these comments if they aren't friends-locked.

He does seem amenable to reason, and I expect now that you've provided some pictures, he will agree with you at least for some birds with heads.

Now, for me, I'm really happy if someone can produce a medieval picture of any outfit whatsoever. Odds are, they'll show me a period theater costume or a goddess or something, but they at least went looking, and that's good enough for me. Let us hope other people are as liberal. ;)

But you have *several* pictures, and of normal noble feasts, so that's even better.

Date: 2008-03-11 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ppfuf.livejournal.com
He probably is amenable to reason, I'm just far too likely to take things personally about this project. I really need to take a deep breath and a step back.
One of the pictures _is_ a Wedding at Cana. I've been trying not to use saint-stuff, but some of it is just to cool to ignore.
I've got a lot of pictures handy...this whole project grew out of an interest in period food-garnish that started five years ago.

Date: 2008-03-11 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cvirtue.livejournal.com
I think your documentation is fine (didn't mean to imply otherwise), and yes, if reading it is getting you grumpy, do step back. I'll keep defending the idea, as you've seen. ;)

The wedding pictures may be called "at Cana" but to my costumer's eye, they look spot-on for the time they were painting, including the anachronistic outfit for the bride.

Date: 2008-03-11 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ppfuf.livejournal.com
I didn't think you were dissin' my docs. I was just trying to point out when looking at period pictures of people at table, you have to sort through a _lot_ of Last Suppers, Wedding at Cana, Dinner in the House of Mary & Martha etc. Pictures of "real people" at table are harder to come by.
The other problem we have is, gluttony was still a big sin then. Just as we don't take pictures of people with food in their mouths, they didn't paint pictures of people with a lot of food on the table, unless they were trying to make a political or moral point. We're making some big assumptions on a few pictures. Iconographic evidence will only take you so far in reproducing an event.

Date: 2008-03-12 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cvirtue.livejournal.com
... still being amazed/amused at the grossed out reactions over there....

Interesting point about the iconography.

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